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Trump told Perry and State Department officials as early as May to talk to Giuliani about Ukraine — Donald Trump directed Rick Perry and two top State Department officials to deal with Rudy Giuliani when the Ukrainian President sought to meet Trump, in a clear circumvention of official channels.

Trump told Perry and State Department officials as early as May to talk to Giuliani about Ukraine — Donald Trump directed Rick Perry and two top State Department officials to deal with Rudy Giuliani when the Ukrainian President sought to meet Trump, in a clear circumvention of official channels.

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