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[NSFW] Possible Pee-Tape? A more careful analysis

See here: https://twitter.com/pisstape/status/1089019000271581184

I’ve seen another user post allegations of a conspiracy to discredit the actual piss tape with a fake one – **EIGHTEEN FUCKING TIMES** – Across multiple subreddits. I won’t link him, you can find him in here, posting only a few hours before me.

For someone trying to claim a disinfo campaign, he sure is going to some fucking lengths to NOT make himself look like a disinfo campaign.

Anyway. The “video”.

DISCLAIMER, I am not saying it’s real or it’s actually Trump. This is just my analysis. But… God I want it to be real…

First of all, it’s not a “hidden camera watching him”, like some inept viewers are saying. It’s a camera watching an LCD screen playing the video. The camera itself (IE, the one that is in the room with the three subjects doing the initial recording) appears to not be in a position or angle where it’d be on a tripod and meant to be doing any recording. I’d say it’s likely embedded in another device or furniture, but my money’s on a device deliberately placed to capture all three in the same frame. Perhaps placed there by one of the “escorts”. The subject in the chair doesn’t seem to notice.

Pretty much immediately the camera pans and zooms to the man in the chair. Pixellation makes it difficult to tell at high resolutions if it’s been faked or not. However zooming out, it can definitely be said to resemble someone vaguely Trump-ish. We can also see he is holding something black and rectangular in his hand, likely a phone, or a remote control. At the end of the video we see his fingertip reach out to touch it, so my money’s on a phone. The man gestures with his finger towards the girls, and has body movements that are consistent with Trump’s. The hair is… Signature Trump. The clearly large belly and slouching in the chair is consistent with Dear Leader. And I hate to make an old and tired joke but the hand size checks out too…

The girls are on the bed. The one we see the most of either has small breasts or is wearing a shirt that gives a pixellated illusion of having small breasts, and she appears to be shaved downstairs – Not that that detail matters any. However she also appears to have long blonde hair (On her head!). At 00:14 we see the screen cut to black and then see who I think is the second girl standing straddle-legged on the bed and forcing herself to urinate on the other girl. We can actually see a light trickle of urine fall from between her legs when the camera zooms on on her buttocks. The girl being peed on has her face blurred out.

I believe that the first half of the video before the cut to black is “Trump” instructing the girls what he wants them to do, and the second half after the cut is them carrying it out.

[ The room is definitely the Presidential Suite of the Ritz Carlton Moscow.](http://www.ritzcarlton.com/en/hotels/europe/moscow/rooms-suites/presidential-suite), at least it passes my own once-over.

4chan is calling it a hoax, and when they do that, that’s when I start to get curious, because they did the same thing about the Steele Dossier – “LOL LOOK WHAT WE DID LOL WE FOOLED THE DEMS WITH THIS FAKE DOSSIER!”

Do I think it’s real? I think it bears the hallmarks of being potentially real. I think it’s also pretty trivial to make a deepfake convincing enough that if you aimed a cellphone at it like you were “secretly filming” a screen playing “Russian kompromat”, it might pass off as real enough to pass along to the media and then use it to discredit them.

That said, this reeks of Veritas, but I wouldn’t put it past the Kremlin either.

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2 thoughts on “[NSFW] Possible Pee-Tape? A more careful analysis

  1. > We can also see he is holding something black and rectangular in his hand, likely a phone, or a remote control. At the end of the video we see his fingertip reach out to touch it, so my money’s on a phone.

    But that’s a really awkward way to use a phone. Most people just navigate with their thumb. Who holds their phone in their left hand and navigates with their right index finger like that?

    Oh, I guess[THIS GUY](https://towns.fetchyournews.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/15/2018/09/Trump-cellphone-e1486962852390.png) does.

  2. This is the fakest thing and anyone who follows these investigations hoping for justice does not care whether this tape even exists. The Steele dossier, although talked about frequently, likely has no bearing on the outcome of the investigations. Trump and those around him are already in serious and legal jeopardy, no matter what the dossier says or if this video is real. Furthermore, it’s entirely possible (assertions more credible than the tweet you provided) that the Russians feed Steele disinformation that made it into the dossier as well. Posts like these degrade the discussion in this sub.

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